Monday, October 31, 2005

Justice Scalito

Manifesto

Well, President Bush has nominated a right winger who seems intent on overturning Roe, Judge Samual Alito. I'm not going to parse through his record here. Others can and will do it better. Instead, I'm going to make a statement to all those moderate Republicans out there who still vote Republican. In conversations over the years, moderate Republicans (Christie Whitman, Arlen Specter, Rudy Guiliani, etc.) always supported the Bush administration despite their disagreements over key issues (global warming, abortion, size of the federal government, etc.) Whitman even wrote a book about this phenomenon.

I've never understood this. If the party you are a member of espouses multiple beliefs that are completely contrary to what you believe, how (or better, why) are you a member of that party? The only issue that these moderate Republicans seem to be in agreement with the modern Republican party is stated desire to limit government. I say stated because it is apparent from the Bush years that limited government now means limited revenues (low taxes for the rich) but bloated expenses (more spending on the military-industrial complex).

The modern Republican party is supposed to be the party of values. But it is apparent that many moderate Republicans value their wealth over their expressed beliefs. They have completely allowed the radical Republicans to dictate extreme beliefs that they supposedly don't believe in. Yet, they keep voting with the Party. Their excuse is that they don't believe that the radicals will ever be able to implement their beliefs.

Well, moderate Republicans, your years of complicity with the radical Right has led to where we are now, about to appoint a Supreme Court Justice who not only doesn't believe that the Constitution protects the right of women to have an abortion, but also doesn't believe that the Constitution forbids the state from criminalizing birth control.

So thank you, moderate Republicans. You stood by your party as it drifted further and further to the Right. Through thick and thin you were loyal soldiers, expressing doubts and reservations, but never reserving your vote from the G.O.P. And now, your loyalty to the G.O.P. is being rewarded in a way completely contrary to your expressed beliefs. Well, at least you still have your tax cuts. You can use that money to buy yourself something nice when your sons and daughters hold you responsible for what the radicals have done to the nation.

13 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

What about the right of the child to LIVE.... If Roe v. Wade didn't exist than there wouldn't be an issue with social security today. The children who were MURDERED because of the decision would be hodling down jobs right now and supporting the social security for the older folks. It is not MANKINDs decision to stop a beating heart on purpose, it's GOD's. And if the Liberalists of this country would open their eyes they could see that. Justice ALITO would be an asset to the Supreme Court.

Monday, October 31, 2005 1:36:00 PM  
Blogger Yossarian said...

If Roe v. Wade didn't exist than there wouldn't be an issue with social security today. The children who were MURDERED because of the decision would be hodling down jobs right now and supporting the social security for the older folks.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!!!

This is the stupidest pro-life argument in the history of stupid arguments. I have no problem with a person being pro-life. I know many, many people that are. What I have a problem with is the idea that you get to decide it for the rest of us. You believe God is all powerful and should be the one who decides? Fine, live your life that way. But leave me out of it.

Monday, October 31, 2005 2:18:00 PM  
Blogger Yossarian said...

I applaud your call to moderate republicans. And wth the Boy King's power at an all-time low, this may be the last best shot for them to break away from him and his failed policies. The next few months are going to be a monumental struggle for everyone.

Monday, October 31, 2005 2:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So you believe in MURDERING innocent children... What the hell did they do to deserve it...NOTHING. You believe in Pro-choice than why not let the CHILD decide.

Monday, October 31, 2005 3:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I like your American Red Cross ad, "Together we can SAVE a LIFE"

Until it's an unborn child, I guess that's OK.. Hypocrite

Monday, October 31, 2005 3:39:00 PM  
Blogger Darlucky said...

Resisting urge to respond directly.

Yep, everything I wrote after that was pointless as this is not an argument that ever goes anywhere.

So I'll just be quiet, and wonder if anonymous has gone on to another blog in which they came across the key word Roe, in order to post the same thing.

Monday, October 31, 2005 4:45:00 PM  
Blogger Darlucky said...

MooseSox - great minds think alike. we posted about 30 secs apart.

Monday, October 31, 2005 4:46:00 PM  
Blogger Yossarian said...

If Roe v. Wade is overturned, my family and I are not really going to be the ones affected. We live in a Blue state that will always support the woman's right to choose. The people that will be affected are the poor. Poor women who do not have the means to travel to a state that allows her the choice will be forced into unwanted pregnancies. The vast majority will grow up as unwanted children in single parent homes. You call me a hypocrite, fine. But who is going to help support this woman and child? Social conservatives are loathe to provide welfare for the poor. And while God may provide, He doesn't help pay the rent.

We must also remember that this is a women's issue. As a man, I have the right to my opinion, but it really should be left to the women. Not only is it their body, they are the ones held responsible for the child in the vast majority of cases.

You keep posting anonymously. That is fine, and I welcome the debate. But are you a man? A woman? Too often women's health laws in this country are decided by old white men who support a policy of no abortions except in the case of "rape, incest, or me." You are obviously a religious person that believes life begins at conception. (I personally believe life begins at delivery.) Do you believe that birth control is immoral? By using the pill or a condom, am I guilty of murder? I think you would agree that most people would disagree with this stance. I am very curious to your opinion on these points and encourage you to post again.

Monday, October 31, 2005 4:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"You are obviously a religious person that believes life begins at conception." Your right, I do believe that life begins at conception. I am a white male and a Christian. I was raised a Catholic but now I go to worship in a Methodist church, that's because my wife is a Methodist. No I don't believe that birth control is immoral, it's taking responsibility for your actions. So if there is no birth control control and the girl gets pregnant, than there is responsibility there as well, and it's not MURDER, abortion is a cop out. If your old enough to screw than your old enough to take care of a child or offer him/her up for adoption, there are plenty of women who would give their right arm for a chance at having a child and can't.

Randy
Missouri

Monday, October 31, 2005 5:29:00 PM  
Blogger Yossarian said...

We're going to have to agree to disagree. You seem unwilling to address the significant role poverty takes in this issue. (I find this to be a common trait of conservatives.) The poor are almost without exception badly educated and unable to receive proper medical care. If you are not schooled about birth control and/or are unable to obtain birth control, what are you supposed to do? Adoption is a very noble idea and I thoroughly support it, but unfortunately this country has an absolutely terrible foster care system and unless you are a healthy white baby, you are very likely to have to suffer in it until you are 18.

You also have very weak ideas to support your arguments. Social security would be better with more unwanted children? Is that something you made up? I've never heard anyone pro-choice ever suggest something so absurd and without basis. Let the unborn child decide? That's the best you can come up with? (It's not even an argument!) Black and white ideas may play well on cable news and bumper stickers, but they have little or no place in this debate. This is a highly complex issue that is full of grey areas you seem to ignore. All or nothing statements like yours do zero to enlighten the problem, they ignore it.

I am glad you came to our site and shared your views. I am also glad you have finally signed your name to your posts. The problem is you didn't do it until I called you on it. Instead, you came to this forum throwing stones in every direction behind the shield of anonymity. This may sound corny, but we did set this blog up to be a place for debate and the sharing of ideas. But next time you decide to come to our forum and debate an issue, I hope you will bring more thoughtful ideas to support your views. YELLING rarely works in print.

Monday, October 31, 2005 6:34:00 PM  
Blogger Yossarian said...

Where did you read about Alito's beliefs that "not only doesn't believe that the Constitution protects the right of women to have an abortion, but also doesn't believe that the Constitution forbids the state from criminalizing birth control." This is some scary shit and I want to know more about it.

Tuesday, November 01, 2005 8:55:00 AM  
Blogger Chill said...

Alito, along with Scalia, Thomas, etc. do not believe that the Constitution includes a right of privacy. It is this right to privacy that formed the basis of the Roe decision. The right of privacy is one of the penumbra of rights recognized by the Supreme Court in Griswold v. Connecticut in the 1965. The penumbra of rights theory holds that because the Constitution guarantees certain rights by implication it guarantees other, similar rights. Griswold concerned state legislation that forbid married couples from purchasing contraceptives. The only way intellectually consistent to overturn Roe would be to overturn Griswold, which would take us back to a world where a state could ban contraceptives.

Tuesday, November 01, 2005 11:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Poverty in this country was here long before the legalization of Abortion. Poverty is a state of mind anyway. If you refuse not to be poor than you won't be poor it's as simple as that. That's why this is such a great country. I'm not rich by no means, I live from payday to payday often struggling to get food for my family. I didn't go to college, yet I have a great job with great pay. I have one kid in college and one high school, who will not go to college. I have a week to week routine that would probably bore you to death, but it's mine. I'll go for a person who has alot of integrity and great morale values. I value your opinion, and you make a good argument. That's all I have to say on the subject. Have a Great Day

Randy
Missouri

Tuesday, November 01, 2005 11:28:00 AM  

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